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Post by Ikerepc on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 4:44 pm

Anyone know anything about him, his trial at Den Haag?

Or anything about that Croatian War of Independence?

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Re: General Slobodan Praljak

Post by Brandon on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 4:47 pm

No I do not, but mtvfan is a history nerd, he might.

Want to post some links where we can read more?

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Post by Ikerepc on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 4:50 pm

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I just wanna know opinions of "neutral" peoples out of Croatia... Smile :/

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Post by Brandon on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 5:07 pm

Oh that is the guy who drank poison in court and commited sucide right? Yeah I heard about that.

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Post by Ikerepc on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 5:08 pm

Yes, that's him

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Post by Brandon on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 5:19 pm

Well what does the general croatian public think of him?

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Post by 1mtvfan on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 5:24 pm

as my friend Wolfram said on it
"ein feigling tragt Keine ehre"

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Post by Ikerepc on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 5:44 pm

And I will say to you:
"Jebi se idiote kretenski i nepismeni"

translation:
"[CENSORED] you idiot moronic and illiterate"

If he has anything that is honor. And he was never coward.

Tell me, why do you think he is coward and why you think he have no honor?

Also, do you know ANYTHING about that war so you can talk about it on that way???

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Post by Brandon on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 5:48 pm

I take it the croatian people like him then?

I am just shocked he commited suicide, considering he only had 7 years left to serve, then again when your in your 70's 7 years is a long time so I don't know.

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Re: General Slobodan Praljak

Post by Ikerepc on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 5:54 pm

Not all Croatian people

But you need to know our history. You can not judge without any knowlage.

He was 5 years general in war. He was so long in prison and was hoping that he will be free. When he is convicted he commited suicide as whole judgment had no solid base. He didn't do any of that crimes. He just wanted to show everyone what he thinks about that judgement.

And he showed. He died in court. Which court in the world would allow someone to enter with poison and not react after he drunk it?

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Post by Brandon on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 6:08 pm

From what I read, they did rush him to a hospital, but it was a strong poison I suppose and there was nothing they could do for him.

Better question is, where the heck did he get the poison to begin with? He was in prison, should not have had any access to poison of any sort.

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Post by 1mtvfan on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 6:22 pm

that's the mystery, and his actions have branded him a coward, this is the same way out taken by Herrman Goering, Heinrich Himmler, Martin Bormman, and many others from Nazi Germany, only a coward kills them self to avoid justice
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Post by Brandon on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 6:34 pm

[Only mods are allowed to see this link] wrote:that's the mystery, and his actions have branded him a coward, this is the same way out taken by  Herrman Goering, Heinrich Himmler, Martin Bormman, and many others from Nazi Germany, only a coward kills them self to avoid justice  

Do you know anything about the croatian war of independence?

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Post by Ikerepc on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 6:39 pm

Brandon, he is transfered to hospital after more than 2 hours. He actually died in court. But they can't go with that. His dead body was transferedto hospital for autopsy.

Mtv, how dare you compare them? He surrendered by himself. He went to trial. He went to prison but he is innocent. And he can't stand that someone can judge innocent men guilty.

How can I even talk to person like you?

You are telling a lies and bad things about innocent pearson without any argument! How could you? You stupid pice of shit

Tell one argument why you think that is that way!

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Post by Brandon on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 6:48 pm

Ok be nice now Ivan, he is simply expressing his opinion.

You don't have to agree, but please do not use foul language and name calling.

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Post by 1mtvfan on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 7:12 pm

[Only mods are allowed to see this link] wrote:Brandon, he is transfered to hospital after more than 2 hours. He actually died in court. But they can't go with that. His dead body was transferedto hospital for autopsy.

Mtv, how dare you compare them? He surrendered by himself. He went to trial. He went to prison but he is innocent. And he can't stand that someone can judge innocent men guilty.

How can I even talk to person like you?

You are telling a lies and bad things about innocent pearson without any argument! How could you? You stupid pice of shit

Tell one argument why you think that is that way!


I saw the news story, he swallowed the poison in the court and died in hospital 2 hours after, but the point is that every criminal convicted of, or standing trial for this, has  escaped or denied their jailers the chance to execute them by committing suicide by poison, a bullet, or hanging them self, case and point, Herrman Goering, Heinrich Himmler, Martin Bormann, and Robert Ley. all of which were convicted of crimes against humanity or were facing that crime, thus making them all a coward and only a coward kills him or herself just to avoid facing justice for their crimes, keep in mind, this "general" thought "the  world would be a better place without Serbs" which is more or less the same idea as the Nazis in WWII, and thus the charges on his head, and my guess is  he chose to commit suicide as a form of defiance, or because he'd had enough of living in jail on false charges
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Post by Ikerepc on Mon 11 Dec 2017, 11:52 pm

So you are saying you don't know anything, right?

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Post by 1mtvfan on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 12:25 am

i am simply making a guess as to why he took the action that he did, but the court had found him guilty of the charge, and so they jailed him,  jailed him as punishment for this crime, called "ethnic cleansing" even if you consider him innocent, remember, it is up to the international court to decide guilt or innocence, and plenty of people still consider him a coward for not serving his full sentence, and i apologize for upsetting anyone, but that is what the information about this tells me, but i think maybe we should best call this issue closed and let people cool down for a bit
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Post by Ikerepc on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 12:59 am

So after your argumentation I have to conclude that everyone who commits a suicide is criminal?

Also, please, where was that so called "erhnic cleaning"?

Do you know that with that post you are comparing Nazi Germany with todays Croatia and BiH?
Or you are too stupid and you don't know history facts but are judging us anyway?

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Post by Ikerepc on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 1:37 am

Also, btw thanks because you think that we are so superior and strongest nation in whole world!

Because in that time there were max 16-17% of population who were Croats. And they did ethnic cleaning of other 83-84% of population. I'm I right? Also, at that time Croatia and BiH had veto to weapons import and all weapons were at Europe 3rd army force - JNA.

So you are telling me that lower than 16-17% of population without any weapons did ethic cleaning of 3rd Europe army force and other 80+% of population

NICE bro Smile

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Post by Brandon on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 7:52 am

Ike I can see your very passionate about this. I don't want this to get out of hand at all.

Is it ok with you if I lock thread?

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Post by 1mtvfan on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 10:01 am

locking this thread sounds like a good idea.
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Post by TigerTankFan on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 12:15 pm

My metaphorical "two cents" on this matter go as follows:

1.) Under democratic law, everyone is innocent until proven guilty

2.) Unfortunately 1mtvfan has a very annoying tendency to shoot his mouth off before taking the time to think about what he's actually saying.

I expressly apologize to 1mtvfan for the above post, but such is quite common
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Post by 1mtvfan on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 12:38 pm

if he wasn't guilty he wouldn't be in jail, the court found him guilty of a crime and put him there, end of story
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